Marriage According to Bile Lie Bible Bibel Believing Christians

In 2004 a President asked that marriage be codified according to Biblical principles. A group of Protestants read the Bible and wrote down what those principles actually say. This page keeps their reading, and the letters and commentary that gathered around it.

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What marriage on Biblical principles would require

We share this writing by Neale Donald Walsch regarding marriage, and the bible. We invite you to see what the true definitions of a real Christian marriage entails.

Subject: CwG Weekly Bulletin #81: Going Home
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:37:45 -0800
From: Neale Donald Walsch
To: lexigram@goodworksonearth.org

My Dear Friends,

Someone sent me an email this week saying that the 'Presidential Prayer Team' is currently urging people to...'Pray for the president as he seeks wisdom on how to legally codify the definition of marriage. Pray that it will be according to Biblical principles. With any forces insisting on variant definitions of marriage, pray that God's Word and His standards will be honored by our government.'

I do not know what the 'Presidential Prayer Team' is, or if there even is one, much less whether, if it exists, it actually issued the above plea. I have learned to take with a grain of salt anything I see or read on the Internet. Nevertheless, having said that, we are certainly all aware that President Bush has said he would like to find a way to 'codify' marriage between a man and a woman as the only marriage to be legally recognized in this country.

A group calling itself Protestants for the Common Good has just released a fascinating document that indicates what the 'Biblical Principles' of marriage are, based on a reading of the Holy Bible. This group says that a proposed Constitutional Amendment codifying marriage entirely on biblical principles would say the following:

  1. A. Marriage in the United States shall consist of a union between one man and one or more women. (Gen 29:17-28; II Sam 3:2-5)
  2. B. Marriage shall not impede a man's right to take concubines, in addition to his wife or wives. (II Sam 5:13; I Kings 11:3; II Chron 11:21)
  3. C. A marriage shall be considered valid only if the wife is a virgin. If the wife is not a virgin, she shall be executed. (Deut 22:13-21)
  4. D. Marriage of a believer and a non-believer shall be forbidden. (Gen 24:3; Num 25:1-9; Ezra 9:12; Neh 10:30)
  5. E. Since marriage is for life, neither this Constitution nor the constitution of any State, nor any state or federal law, shall be construed to permit divorce. (Deut 22:19; Mark 10:9)
  6. F. If a married man dies without children, his brother shall marry the widow. If he refuses to marry his brother's widow or deliberately does not give her children, he shall pay a fine of one shoe, and be otherwise punished in a manner to be determined by law. (Gen. 38:6-10; Deut 25:5-10)
  7. G. In lieu of marriage, if there are no acceptable men in your town, it is required that you get your dad drunk and have sex with him tag-teaming with any sisters you may have. Of course, this rule applies only if you are female.* (Gen 19:31-36)

The latest CwG dialogue book, Tomorrow's God, to be released March 2, talks specifically about the problem of creating civil laws based on scriptural texts. It is an extraordinary book containing an astonishing prediction: that humanity will create a 'new God' for itself within the next 30 years---and describing in detail what that God will be like, and how our daily lives will be affected by this extraordinary theological development in all areas of our collective reality, including politics, economics and business, even education.

I hope that you will pass the word along about this insightful new CwG book. I also earnestly hope that the above commentary about the president's wish to codify marriage stimulates you to explore this important issue of the intersection of religion and politics, one of many that are examined up close in Tomorrow's God.

Tomorrow's God may be ordered right now (see below) from us or at Amazon.com. It will be sent to you immediately upon release the first days of March.

Many blessings,

Neale

*Editor's Note: We thought this was a joke and we researched it and found that although this quote has been very loosely paraphrased, it refers to a story about Lot and his daughters which is indeed contained in those lines. We also found that Protestants for the Common Good does indeed exist in Chicago with a staff, a board of directors and a mission statement.

To order Tomorrow's God, visit www.cwg.org
The CwG Weekly Bulletin is written by Neale Donald Walsch. It is produced by Joanne Gabriel and edited by Rose Wolfenbarger with technical contributions from Ed Keller, Ilima Sylva and Roger Mellon.
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Forget Marriage : Use Adoption

A letter to the Editor of the Register Guard newspaper printed on 20050503 : Regarding a novel idea for a solution to gay marriage preventions by christian politicians at the behest of the evangelicals. A very legal way to have a very legal family in Oregon, and perhaps your state :

Here's a suggestion for all of those same-sex couples trying to navigate the current bureaucratic quagmire in search of equal rights and recognition. Rather than hoping for marriage or even a civil union, consider adoption. With very minimal requirements, according to ORS 109.329, it is perfectly legal in Oregon for a person to adopt someone over the age of 18. You would then be able to make decisions on behalf of each other in all matters medical, legal and otherwise; adoption would even allow you to share the same last name. Moreover, as long as statutory requirements are met, your family member can be claimed on your taxes, thereby providing a modicum of relief to those who are forced to file separately despite sharing income and expenses.

Though legal advice should be certainly sought, the idea presents itself as a solution to a problem which has been blow out of proportion by a self-righteous, intolerant and sanctimonious coalition. Apparently there are no income requirements, gender restrictions or even a limit on the number of adoptees allowed. So file the paperwork and become a happy and legal family! Good luck to you all.

- Reda Quinlan : Waldport, Oregon

Asked directly about gay marriage

Jeff Wright, reporter for the Register Guard newspaper in Eugene, Oregon, asks Neale Donald Walsch this question :

Question: What about gay marriages?

Answer: It's my clarity and understanding that no form of love that is pure and true is inappropriate.

Source Page for the interview : www.registerguard.com

On telling other people how to live

The following information is from Peter Gersten : UFO Attorney  ·  HUMANITY: Homosexuality

The thought of a constitutional amendment against same-sex marriages is another example of how dense our species is. How about a constitutional amendment prohibiting war - or ending hunger - or curing AIDS? Isn't it revealing how some people just love to tell other people how to live their lives. Why is that some people just love to judge other people as if they know what is best for them? How can anyone know why another person is here - what lessons, issues, and experiences they signed up for? There is certainly a huge amount of negative programming occurring in this reality. Maybe people should start minding their own business. Maybe then they would have time to learn a few lessons from our animal friends. Hopefully one day, before it is too late, we will finally realize that we are all connected - no matter how different we appear to be.

"President George W Bush has endorsed a constitutional amendment that would ban marriages of same-sex couples."
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A letter from the same pages, on Iraq

Letter to the Editor, November 7th, 2004, Register Guard Newspaper, Eugene, Oregon

We must stop carnage in Iraq :

While it comes as no great surprise that George Bush is supported by mainstream Christians and their single-mindedness, I was just curious how these Christians reconcile the deaths of more than 100,000 Iraqi civilians. Is death by abortion different from death by smart bombs? Do the familes grieve less? Are Arabs less human or diminished in God's eyes because they are not Christians? Where is the outrage? The Iraqi people were not involved with Sept 11. To lend any support to this crusading president in his quest to impose his will on another country is tantamount to promoting further deaths to innocents. The blood is on all our hands if we refuse to stop this carnage.

- - Leslie Marti, Eugene, Oregon

Who decides what a word means

Words About Words : from the WordSpy

"In the end, though, the meaning of 'marriage' will be determined by the way ordinary people use the word, not the edicts of courts or legislatures. And popular usage can be surprisingly adaptable -- as attitudes evolve, it has few qualms about modifying the traditional definitions of words, however sanctified they seem at the time."

- - Geoffrey Nunberg, American linguist, The New York Times, February 22, 2004

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